Sunday, 6 July 2014

How to cheat in Competitions!





No sorry you are not going to see useful tips to gaining more entries or win more prizes, the title is a bit of a cheat in itself.

Now chances are if you are cheating, you may be able to write a definitive guide yourself and know many more tips than I do.

Its also quite likely that you are far too busy with multiple accounts on Social Media to have time to read this.

However I feel I must point out that as  bloggers we can see it.

Rafflecopter can see you, even if by eye the bloggers may not notice some of the craftier ways.





So why am I saying this, well I obviously see a few cheeky entries not filled correctly and seen with my own eye. The cheeky claim of an RT being done and the entrant has just typed '.' or a random letter, this saddens me as the seconds taken to actually just click the RT button copy and paste would have won them the prize.

The copy of the same daily RT status is obvious, in that a winner picked who has done this each day, gets spotted, a huge glaringly obvious repeat!!

As both comper and blogger who regularly hosts giveaways, there are times when I give away several prizes, maybe 10 in one draw. I  pick out people who have entered and get same address and similar names, OK I double check its not family members, disqualify and move on.




However if a person enters  with 2, 3, yes even 5, yes this week, five different Twitter names/ Facebook accounts. 



Personally I have no issue with two Twitter accounts, if being used honestly. twitter deem it OK.  I have seen bloggers  use this to appear more professional in their blogging and then pursuing an interest on another personal account which may or may not be entering twitter comps.

 Small business folks I have noticed do this also . It keeps a hobby and a business separate, where this becomes dishonest is entering a competition or claiming an offer from both accounts. It is one person and is gaining an unfair advantage over other entrants.


 Secondly, I have no issue with husband/wife comping, this does happen, same household people often have the same hobby. 



Back to the mutiple account issue,  how did I see it? Well that little helper the IP checker?

This shows lots of useful info, including a nice trail of the people who use it, now if I cannot be totally sure that its not a shared IP, I go back to the entries, you see this is where the reason behind multiple entries now spurs that entrant to do all available options. So they have the Twitter/ Facbook, Google, Bloglovin, Google Friends Connect. 

I see one person tweeting and entering from all in a row, every day, ironically, (some may say  karma), that person was picked on their first entry.

Yay, they could have been saying and around about now as I am posting, enjoying their lovely prize.





How did they miss it, a simple thing called IP!

Wikipaedia explains An Internet Protocol address is a numerical label assigned to each device participating in a computer network that uses the Internet Protocol for communication.


If the other two names with same IP had not been there, the first name would have won. Further investigation, as I could have been wrong and maybe mother/daughter etc, showed three twitter, three FB and possibly even more as some names are similar. Looking at all these I noticed some are friends with themselves. Possibly to try and keep track of those extra big prizes, not really sure why!





My issue today, is that if I put a foot wrong hosting giveaways I can be hauled up (and rightly so) by ASA, the comper is protected and their prize given to them , but they are not protected from fraud by a fellow entrant.

A person can set up dual fake identities and then enter from both, some go further, even have conversations with other entrants and bloggers and I feel that is dishonest.


So in conclusion how to cheat at competitions?

Well maybe move on to non Rafflecopter and Gleam style giveaways, but I am sure that those have similar methods to ensure a rightful winner is picked. 





Maybe as you sit smugly with those prizes you could have had even more. How do I know this, well I have one identity and I won £19,000 in the year I kept track of wins, entering in a few spare hours a day. I no longer have time, but I can assure you the joy of winning is a good thing, can you say the same?

Would love to hear peoples thoughts, bloggers and entrants and maybe an anonymous multiple entrant comment, please keep it nice and polite though.

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92 comments:

  1. Damn, there was me thinking this was a guide to winning... seriously though, I have a competition open at the minute and the number of people who have entered using two accounts is shocking!
    www.beautykinguk.co.uk

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    1. Its a sad fact of life, but its so easy to spot and I am glad as I want genuine compers and entrants to have the same fair chance as each other.

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  2. Sadly this has been happening for years. A lot of these naughty folks seem to think they slip under the RADAR but of course they don't always manage to. Nice to know some competition organisers are on the ball. Nothing could please me more than knowing someone has wasted their time entering only to get disqualified later on, after all, some Rafflecopter entries take a while to complete. If only Twitter & Facebook competitions could extract this information & disqualify in a similar way (although there ARE ways to find clues) - Good Luck honest compers everywhere :)

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    1. Thanks Mister Stephen, they certainly will find no joy here, of course for every discovery, the fraudsters often find another way. But yes they are wasting their time here and in rafflecopter competitions. Its daft as over the four years of running giveaways its so glaringly obvious if a blogger checks.

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  3. I have only just started comping and I have had a few wins already. Need to keep it up!

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    1. Well done Latoyah, I hope your luck continues and you keep on winning!

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  4. Good to see that there are ways to check for cheats x

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    1. Thank you, its a crying shame to see a cheat get a prize and the enjoyment of a prize not reach a deserving entrant. I wrote this after seeing so many cheats entering and felt it was high time to state it on the blog, not that the people who cheat have time to read it. However to reassure my entrants I am on it!!

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  5. I've noticed this on my blog comps run through Rafflecopter too. I am thinking of having robust terms and conditions that say one entry per household. Then if you get two entries from the same I.P. address you could disqualify the entry as far as I am aware.

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    1. The only issue I have with that is its not overly fair if a genuine comper enters a comp and then another family member enters. Its perfectly legal to state this, but that means the cheats are winning as they will potentially find another way to skirt around this.

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    2. And unfortunately a cheat is far more likely top know how to get round the IP address issue than a genuine comper, so IP address isn't always a reliable guide.

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    3. No it is not 100% reliable, however a good root around all the persons entries, only if I feel something is not quite right, can mostly establish a genuine entrant from an ungenuine one. I myself know how to get around an IP address and have had to use for an actual account. sadly for every uncovering, another way to be dishonest will be found. However as far as I can and many other bloggers can, we are at least seeing it more clearly!!

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  6. It's so good to read you're onto these people. It can be so disheartening to see the same names winning, often big prizes, knowing they're cheating.
    I fear not enough companies/bloggers/individuals are that bothered about seeking out cheaters though which is why cheaters continue to cheat and continue to win.
    Personally I just hope Karma is watching.

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    1. I try to think positively, I am hoping that more and more companies are on to the multiple entrants by a single person. Where there is something to gain, people will look for a way to gain more than is fair, its a fact of life, but I also know the more we deal with it politely and decently, the better it becomes. Yes and I do hope their ill gotten gains provide no long term pleasure too! x

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  7. I think the bloggers who are most rigorous about checking for cheats are the ones who are compers ourselves, because we are aware of the problem and know how disheartening it can be to lose to a cheat. I hope lots of bloggers who run comps themselves but seldom enter any will read this and take notice. In a comp,I ran last year, one person entered with TWELVE different IDs! And every one of their entries was deleted. Sadly the cheats themselves are probably too busy juggling their multiple accounts to read this

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    1. Thankfully non comping bloggers are regularly talking about this, its as disheartening to know a cheat won a prize. But yes it has been my bugbear for a lot longer as I love to enter giveaways too. The cheats will no doubt read this and as I said at the beginning, they will no doubt have many more ways to gain the prizes, but not on my blog!!

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  8. Great post - the best wins are those well deserved and earned appropriately :)

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    1. Exactly that Kate, that should be a well known quote!

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  9. it's very reassuring to hear that you can spot the cheats, though sad that you have to. I do wonder how many competitions are actually won by cheats since maybe not everyone bothers even checking. It staggers me to hear about how many accounts some people have and I do have to wonder - how on earth do they find the time? I see hundreds of comps a day but only enter a small percentage of those because I don't want to spend all day doing it - imagine doing that from several accounts. wow.

    Heather x
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    1. I am being optimistic and I do believe most bloggers would hate to see a cheat win, so may be even more rigorous than I. Like you, I cannot imagine that much else gets done in the lives of the multiple cheat.

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  10. Good to know that you're checking to make sure cheats don't win, thank you. I'm still not clear on how you tell if they're different people but if it means giving clues to them, then keep it to yourself!

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    1. Thanks Diane, I and many other bloggers do our best to ensure that all comps are run fairly including terms and conditions. Its pretty obvious when a multiple account shows up but yes we need to keep it under wraps!!

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  11. I was drawn to this not because of the title, but because a fellow comper alerted me to it saying "interesting, and not what you think"
    Now, I already follow you so I would have seen this anyway, but I am very reassured to know you have a lot of checks in place to rule and weed out cheats. Like you, I just don't have time to sit and enter comps anymore. I do enjoy the ones I have time to do. Also, I am the only person in the UK with my name so if anyone is sad enough to try and claim anything in my name they'll wish they'd never been born.
    What I want to know is, how does someone have the time to have several accounts on different social media sites, hundreds of email addresses and phone numbers and sit there entering all day, every day? Surely they have work, family or other commitments to see to? What enjoyment do they get out of an ill gotten prize? If they've used a fake name, or claimed someone elses prize, surely that's fraud? Or obtaining property by deception? I used to get involved in alerting companies to cheats and to a point I do if I have proof, as I can't stand unfairness. I won't even enter voting competitions because it attracts cheats and I've only ever seen 4 genuine people win a voting comp out of all the voting comps I've seen. I could go on, but I've got a life to live away from the computer...I spend about 20 mins a day picking and choosing the comps I want to enter. Some people live in such a tiny little world and I do not want to be part of it.
    I heartily applaud your efforts, after all, you're doing something lovely for people and it just takes a few rotten so and so's to ruin things for everyone.

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    1. I wish I knew how they do it Joy, I suspect they do very little else, for one they do not read the terms and conditions and I expect with blog giveaways, they skip straight to entry without acknowledging the brand or product. It is fraud, hence why I would like to see an official regulatory agency set up similar to ASA that names and shames the few individuals who practice the deception. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

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  12. I demand something free be sent to me. I came here expecting to be told a guaranteed way of winning and now I want my prize ;)

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    1. Hehe Ryan, sadly you have been duped, but hopefully you will have read that is in order to make sure future visits to sites give you a fair chance to win!

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  13. I'm very pleased to hear that you are able to spot the cheats. It can become disheartening sometimes

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    1. Yes it can disheartening for the entrant and for the host.

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  14. Interesting one ,as its been the topic for a few weeks on fb and other places. Lots to do with this bot cheat system? I only ever have one account for each social network but i know others have lots and its so unfair for the people like me who do not cheat . Some people have been saying someones over thousands of prizes from other by cheating .

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    1. The bot cheat system seems to be the talk of the blogging, comping and I am sure the brands who host giveaways on Twitter, just hoping that more is done to verify the winner than the simple RT entry.

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  15. Well done Jo for checking!! I love hearing of my friends wins and of course love to win myself, but it can be disheartening when you hear of someone with several accounts has won! I love my hobby and don't know how anyone can keep up with so many accounts (as Jane says she had someone with 12!) so it's lovely to hear that you check (after all, it means more chance of the rest of us winning) x

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    1. Thanks Kristy, for the very same reason as you, I enjoy hearing and seeing the excitement of a winner. Its lovely to also be apart of the prize giving procedure. That delight I feel when I have won something is actually felt as I ping out the 'Congrats' emails too. So yes I check and double check both to check I am not wrong and to ensure that an honest person gets that delight!

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  16. Great post! My giveaway was full of multiple accounts, they don't even try to hide it, it's obvious as their twitter accounts had very similar names/pictures and was retweeting the give away (and others) all at the same time!

    there is a way for people to get around it though which isn't hard, but harder to find out for the person running the comp, I wont say just in case no one has thought of that, although I'm sure the professional multiple account compers already know the tricks!

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    1. There are a few ways Julie, but the nitty gritty of the name and address at the end shows up discrepancies also, these can be checked. Especially if they are winning multiple times. There is a trail and its usually quite littered!

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  17. I don't know why people would bother entering Rafflecopter comps and not completing it properly, it's so deceitful and like you say it can be spotted by blog owners anyway, it's just a waste of everybody's time!

    Wow, congrats on the £19k worth though! :D

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  18. I didn't realise people took entering so seriously (to use multiple accounts), to use one would take long enough! £19k though that is amazing! x

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    1. Some people have 8 to 10 Twitter accounts, and don't get me started on the people that use Automatic Retweet programs to win all the prizes going, without having to be near their computers!

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  19. Thanks Jo - a very well written post and I am glad you check out your entries. At least by doing it you can feel reassured that your prizes are being sent out to genuine entrants who have entered fairly. Thank you for you blog and efforts and good luck with the competitions you enter too x

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    1. Thanks Tracy that means a lot, I have had a good few loyal entrants who I can clearly see comp from one account across all the networks.

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  20. Great article! Don't forget though that it is not possible to "undo" something on a rafflecopter. I have inadvertently clicked an entry button before without having done what was instructed, and it stays as an entry!
    Also now Facebook seem to be doing automatic unlikes of pages for you, so you no longer hit a ceiling at 2000. So you could enter correctly liking a page, which the next day Facebook could unlike for you!
    PS I've been comping for over 30 years, and have never been close to a £19k year, with the possible exception of 1986 when I won a VW Polo, and haven't won a decent prize since beginning of December!

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    1. Thank you William, the Facebook unliking pages is a real source of irritatio, I am at my max and when I got the little notification, that was my time to use 'Unlike it' and go through and remove pages that were mostly unused. Now they are choosing and I am not sure what criteria they are using, so it seems a bit Big Brotherish to me.

      However it is possible to rescue a Rafflecopter entry and alert the host of the giveaway, you can click edit, this can of course be written in your post, especially if its a mandatory entry, they will be looking for it.

      Also whilst you may not be able to undo an action, say if you pressed tweet and forgot to add the tweet status url, but on my rafflecopter entry for example, you can just click 'Edit' say in the blog comment action and add the info there. I have got carried away myself and pressed 'Enter' before I meant to, I just choose an edit of any action where the blogger etc ask for details and send them a note. Or even email, which is all a bit of a faff and it would be good if Rafflecopter would look at this, but in the meanwhile, if it is a prize you particularly would like to be in with a chance. I would email and have let the blogger know.

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  21. Great that you make these checks. I don't know how people find the time to cheat. I barely have time to do a fraction of the comps I come across with a prize that I would like in my own name, let alone in any others. Cheats are all over competitions now which is very sad. Personally it is a little hobby that I enjoy for an hour or 2 in the evening, but to some it takes over their lives and they are obsessed with winning anything and everything whether they have a use for the prize or not. Each to their own, but I like to think karma pays the cheats a visit or 2!

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  22. Great tips. I have become much better at checking. I take all my competitions very seriously

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    1. Thanks Jen, sadly we all have to work a little harder than we would like and I am glad that the vast majority of us do take it seriously.

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  23. I am glad I am not the only one that checks entrants and disqualify dodgy entries. I love hosting competitions on my blog, but it makes me sad that some people feel the need to enter multiple times using different twitter/facebook. I already offer the choice of tweeting daily, etc, so there is no need to cheat. Great post by the way! :) x

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  24. Glad to see that cheats don't always prosper! I rarely enter twitter comps anymore, as the cheats are fairly obvious and I get fed up with seeing them hoovering up the prizes! It's good to know there are some comps they can't swindle!

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  25. love this. there is nothing worse than seeing a genuine comper lose out to a cheat!

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  26. My main bug bear it the clicking to say they've done a task but haven't, do they not think we check? Also putting the wrong link when it asks you to add a link to the tweet, yet they put something random in!
    Thankfully I don't get many cheats, but do keep an eye out for a few I know of!

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    1. As I have said above, it is not possible to "undo" something on a rafflecopter. I have inadvertently clicked an entry button before without having done what was instructed, and it stays as an entry!

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    2. Yes Ness the most yawn worthy way and I do quite a bit of head shaking in doing my little click that disqualifies!!

      William we are talking about the entrant who will fill in every entry with a dot, your inadvertent one mistake is a genuine mistake. These cheats, will even very sadly come back each day for up to a month to do so. If they just wrote a quick line on the blog, clicked the follow buttons (which take the same time) they would have been the winner on many an occasion.

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    3. You are welcome William

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  27. I completely agree, it's why I tend to mainly do rafflecopter and gleam comps as I heard people use a bot or something to enter loads of comps under different accounts!
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  28. Interesting read and good to know that there are ways to check for multiple accounts etc

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  29. I second the thoughts on your blog post and it's really nice to hear that some people do take the time to disqualify cheats. I only started entering comps for the past couple of months but i've had my eyes opened to the greed and dishonesty that other people use when entering and it is disheartening. I like to know i'm only entering something that i would really like or make use of, but i see people entering all sorts of random things that you can tell they have no use for. I've seen some obvious fake accounts along the way and i've seen some of them win, and it is really frustrating when so many other genuine people are 'comping by the rules', and lose out to those few that ruin it for the rest of us. I really don't know how people have the time to keep up with multiple accounts or feel no guilt. I'd like to see more people look into entries, it would make it more enjoyable =)

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  30. I only enter blogger comps where I know they check for cheats - like yours! And since time is short, I only enter on blogs which I find interesting.

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  31. Fantastic that you do such a great check - thank you for doing it, it's a pity that you need to. I don't know why people cheat when there are so many comps out there now you really couldn't manage to enter them all once, never mind with multiple accounts! Having read the entire thread I hadn't realized Facebook unfollow people for us now - I must keep a close eye on that!

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    1. Thanks Hazel and I was unaware too that Facebook is unliking my pages for me, I thought they were being reasonable and allowing more likes.

      I dread to think which ones they have unfollowed for me. Its certainly not old pages that have not updated since say 2/3 years ago. I checked with 'Unlike It' and thoses are still there and I am now following them despite not seeing them since before 'Following' came in!

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  32. When I first ran a competition on my blog I really was shocked at the amount of cheating that went on. I'm not talking like William G says the odd mistake, we are after all human so prone to doing them, but down right not doing anything asked or just writing great prize/lovely prize, when you've asked them for an opinion or to look at the brands website. I delete the whole of their entries & don't feel guilty about it.
    I can't abide cheats in any form. I do enter a lot of competition, being bed bound sometimes they are the only things that can distract me some days, I don't have a great record for winning, but I enjoy the fun of the chase. I really hate seeing the same names win esp on Facebook.
    It's good to know other bloggers check for cheats too. Jane - Family Clan

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  33. These cheats must have a lot of time on their hands - I find it hard keeping up with all the comps just in my name!

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  34. Its sad on FB esp seeing all the glaringly fake accounts - what's with the no profile pic and then they have a handful of friends and thats it and you might see a whole list of people with the same surname - jon blogs, frankie blogs etc etc lol. I'd hope to think that promoters can see these aren't genuine but then I wonder whether this has led to a backlash against compers in general whereby if a person has just comps on their wall, they could be disqualified! I have heard similar things via twitter for some companies. Twitter seems full of multiple cheat accounts as well, it's a sad thing, I hope more can be done without it going against all compers x

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    1. There is a lot to be said about comping and I have seen some unjust, negative comments on twitter, Facebook and sadly in the blogging world about compers, but then I have also seen a lot of the same levied at brands and bloggers!! Promotors can see it and hosts of blog giveaways can see it too Natalie. I can safely say, for the vast majority of us, it has no negative impact on entrants who like to comp!

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    2. I don't use Facebook or Twitter as social tools, I only enter comps on my accounts but according to you I am now a cheat as I have no friends on my account. I don't have a profile picture as I don't want anyone to find me on Facebook and friend me. I could easily pay a few pounds to get a couple of hundred friends and put up a fake picture so these shouldn't be a measure of authenticity of an account. I prefer to socialise with people face to face not have the Facebook giant watching my every move, however I do like winning prizes :-) . As for monitoring IP addresses that is no good as there are numerous programs which allow you to anonymise your IP by routing it through different systems. Basically we are stuck with cheaters but given the number of people entering I'd guess the vast majority of the time they don't win.

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  35. I am also a comper & promoter. I've never understood the point of this type of cheating, as ultimately you are cheating yourself out of the time you could be spending entering other comps singly! Very strange.

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  36. I have been comping for 5 months now, mostly on social media and have 1 account on each. I spend a lot of time doing 100+ a day yet have won virtually nothing.
    I was beginning to think i was doing something wrong because i was seeing the same names winning regularly, people in the same facebook groups as me for instance.
    I have become aware through groups of people cheating with multiple accounts and on Twitter with people using 'bots' always winning.
    After reading this blog i am as unsure as ever if it is still me doing things wrong or the cheats beating me to prizes.
    I was told that with the number i enter, the odds of getting wins is good and just a matter of time. However, the longer it goes on, the less enjoyable it feels and i am at the stage now of thinking of stopping.
    I am sure it is as much about luck than anything but so far, i am out of it.

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  37. Carly Ann @lilimissyc. Good work! and a great post! It's reassuring to know that bloggers are aware of the problem of multiple bot accounts. I just hope that it eventually filters through to the companies who run comps on twitter as well.

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  38. Goodness! As you'll have noticed, I love entering competitions, and just adore the thrill of being told I'm a winner. There are so many competitions to enter, that I don't understand how these people have the time to cheat. And, these blog prizes are lovely, but not life changing, so why do it? Maybe some just can't help themselves, I don't know. Would be interesting to hear their reasons. I mean, it wouldn't make me agree with it. Odd. People are odd. I'm glad it hasn't put you off running giveaways though, long may you continue!

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  39. Great post. I wasn't even aware you could cheat on Rafflecopters due to the fact you are logged in with your Facebook account (or am I doing them wrong) My Fiance does often enter the occasional Rafflecopter or Blog Competition aswell so do worry it may seem like one person but he uses his own Laptop.. Does that make it a different IP? I am pretty clueless. I know that years ago when I helped to moderated an online forum everyone from a certain internet service provider had the same IP. (it made it a nightmare banning trouble makers) I have not been lucky enough to win one of your giveaways but hope I am doing them correctly. I freely admit I do enter a lot of competitions but would not have the time to keep re entering things.

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  40. Cheater's never prosper and all that. I wish I had more time to enter comps, but I just don't; it astounds me that people would go to the trouble to create fake names and accounts to enter competitions. I host them from time to time on my blog and I check entries - it's the only way to weed out those who can't be bothered to follow the rules.

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  41. I'm sure I already sommented on this ;-)

    There is a lot of cheating goes on with competitions so you have to be super vigilant don't you?

    I run less competitions now because of it!

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    @wannawincompo @raisingrosa @lols2girls @tweetsbytracey @chaliceofman @covfan1987 @janetanddenis @reginaldithel @wendymorecombe @lisalewiscomps @charlottegrif16 @dirtygertywins

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  43. I do check my winning entries have done the options they have entered for, but didn't know about the IP check. I've just tested it against my last giveaway (fairly low value prize) and found one IP used multiple times, mostly consecutively, so definitely a cheat. Thank you for sharing a real eye opener.

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  44. Good that people keep an eye out for these things.

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  45. I loved the topic as I was hoping as not so much a tip on how to cheat but how to better navigate how to do some of the required tasks of the prize give aways. I have only started trying to win any competitions anywhere recently, so am learning how to do many of the social network site pages. I have a terrible time following on pinterest if the button doesn't do it automatically for me - I have accidentally followed a board and not a person and spent ages trying to look up said person in a way that I could find a follow button. It especially hard when certain people (hmmm... not naming anyone specific, but let's just say someone going by Jo... and then trying to find their profane with a follow button to follow them specifically when searching the name Jo brings up tons of Jo's). Though with that latest search I figured out if I follow a board, I think I can then go into my profile and find the person who had the board and follow them - at least I hope so as that is how I think I followed you. Found one other person, I hadn't actually followed when I though I had but am now. So there is good coming from all this.

    However, doing all this and joining some of the social network sites I hadn't been involved in is slowly starting to be more fun. I am spending some time learning how to do Instagram (though why anyone would like daily pics of my kitties, I don't know but I am sharing them), and twitter (though trying to do some research on how to tweet properly so I can start to do more relevant tweets versus my instagram cross postings and required comp tweets (which I do and then document).

    Thinking of doing some boards related to photography on my Pinterest acct as that's a hobby of mine.

    I am even learning how to do some thing on Facebook which I have been on for years - like how to document an individual post for a prize drawing. That stumped me forever and finally had to ask the person I was trying to document my sharing for. :-)

    Real cheating (like having multi accounts or not actually doing what is required) irks me as I am trying to do it properly. However, cheats on how to make the process of following the requirements of these drawings wouldn't hurt. :-)

    There's my two cents worth.



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    1. Need bigger comments boxes so I can better edit my comments as I see so many typos once I got it posted. I am not great doing it in the smaller boxes if I ramble on a bit. Luckily I usually keep my comments shorter... :-)

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  46. I love entering competitions, but it's all a matter of luck and those that cheat really do need to be banned.

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  47. Lot of feeling on this subject, clearly.

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  48. interesting reading, its really sad that people feel the need to cheat. I really like rafflecopter I always thought it seemed really fair

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  49. Unbelievably I have had the same person back three time entering my competition & each time they are deleted as they aren't doing the tasks.

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  50. I am so glad that you do these checks, I hear so many stories about cheaters, and it is unfair to people who follow the rules. I wish there was a way of checking when people have multiple accounts and enter lots of times, because I think there are people doing that too.

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  51. I started comping at the end of May, I had a couple of days where I wasn't too well and sat entering a few comps and won one of them! I was hooked!! Its a great hobby and i've found some great websites and blogs that I wouldn't have seen otherwise. Already though I have noticed names on different facebook announcement groups and in e-mails that list winners names where people obviously have entered under 2 different names, I e-mailed one company as 2 of their winners were the same person (one name just had a middle name in). They looked into it and disqualified the person. It is frustrating and i'm pleased there is a way to catch these people out!

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  52. These people that come to rafflecopter with 2/3 names must not know we can see all they do. I just keep deleting them. One person has been back 3 times, ticks they have done everything when in fact they have done nothing!

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  53. Just to clarify... you said above:

    "The copy of the same daily RT status is obvious, in that a winner picked who has done this each day, gets spotted, a huge glaringly obvious repeat!!" -

    ... but daily retweeting of the same thing is part and parcel of Rafflecopter isn't it?? "Do this again tomorrow for more entries" or words to that effect?? Am i misunderstanding your point?? I hope so, because I am meticulous about retweeting daily to gain a (perfectly fair and legitimate) advantage!

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  54. Stuart from Gleam here, this is a subject quite close to our own hearts. We have built quite a sophisticated fraud detection system which invalidates entries based on certain patterns or rules, it's not 100% perfect but does manage to catch 90% or so of cheaters :) Plus it's available on all plans (including free).

    The main reason for us building this is also to ensure that if people are sending entrant emails to a provider like MailChimp we're sending them legitimate people & not made up email addresses etc.

    Hope this helps!

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  57. Really enjoyed this Jo - and apologies for being late to the party (not like me!). I've had some fun in the past naming and shaming cheats - but the buggers pop up again with new identities. I do think that bloggers ask people to do WAY too much in order to enter a simple prize draw though - and some of the invalid entries are probably accidental. An option might be to include a mandatory Rafflecopter task to leave their postal address. Yes, it might seem a pain to them but it will make life easier for you (you can send addresses straight to the prize provider) and also it will eventually scare the cheats off as they'll realise they won't get away with doing 8 entries from the same address!

    As for Gleam & Rafflecopter, these apps (although not perfect) do offer a better option for preventing/disqualifying cheats than the majority of comps do these days. After all, on Twitter, Pinterest, Instagram, Facebook, Vine... you don't even have a winner's email address (or sometimes you don't even have their real name!) to check. It's very hard for a promoter to tell if someone is using 8 Twitter accounts, in fact it's only when an eagle eyed blogger or comper tweets to let them know. And then - the entrant will just set up a few more. Sigh!

    Perhaps I should just start the fun of naming and shaming again eh? Could be fun! (rubs hands together with glee)

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  58. i moderate all entries on my comps just not worth cheating xx

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  59. Great posst Jo but the cheats will probably never see it!

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  60. Great post! I've been disheartened recently it's so obvious on facebook when someone is running multiple accounts, I don't know why other promoters don't see it. I've also entered a few facebook comps recently where the winner hasn't even entered the competition, but I just put it down to experience and avoid that business in the future. I was actually reading about someone last night who had their facebook prize stolen by someone taking their identity and claiming it. The promoter said it was very "naughty" of the person who stole it, but the winner still isn't getting their prize while the thief gets away with it.

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  61. It never seizes to amaze me how people find the time to have more than one account, especially those with small children.

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